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Brent Weaver, CEO of E2M Solutions, joins John Jantsch to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the agency landscape. As the leader of a top white-label provider of WordPress, SEO, content, and AI solutions, Brent shares insights on how agencies can adapt to evolving client expectations, leverage AI tools, and stay competitive in a rapidly shifting market. Listeners will gain valuable strategies for thriving in the post-AI era of marketing. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 01:03 Meet Brent Weaver 01:47 AI Changes Everything 03:06 Embracing AI for Agencies 04:25 AI Adoption Challenges 07:33 AI Hype vs. Reality 08:32 SEO in the AI Era 11:59 Local SEO Still Matters 12:51 Post-AI Competition 14:13 Humans vs. Machines 15:23 AI-Powered Customer Experience 17:20 Brent's AI Journey 18:41 From Doer to Strategist Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about the episode. Struggling with strategy? Unlock your free AI-powered prompts

Jim Murphy is a high-performance coach, author, and creator of the Inner Excellence Methodology. He’s coached Olympians, world-class athletes, and business leaders to achieve breakthrough results by mastering their inner game. In this episode, Jim shares how his book Inner Excellence went viral after NFL star AJ Brown was seen reading it mid-game, and he unpacks the mindset shifts that lead to fearless performance, deeper fulfillment, and extraordinary results. Listeners will gain powerful insights into letting go of outcomes, embracing vulnerability, and training the mind for both peak performance and a meaningful life. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 01:05 Introducing Jim Murphy 01:48 AJ Brown's Impact on the Book 03:39 Book's Viral Success & Printing Issues 05:03 Jim Murphy's Personal Journey 06:41 Core Principles: Identity & Letting Go 08:27 Redefining Fear & Success 10:47 Business Leadership Applications 12:10 Daily Goals & Mindset Training 13:27 Spiritual Elements in Coaching 14:26 Vulne

Michael Tchong, innovation expert and founder of UberTrends, joins John Jantsch to reveal how seismic shifts in consumer behavior and technology are reshaping marketing. Recognized by the Daily Telegraph as America’s most influential trend spotter, Michael has helped brands like Apple, American Express, and Mercedes-Benz anticipate the future. In this episode, he breaks down the difference between fads and lasting Uber Trends, explores the rise of AI and transparency, and shares how businesses can turn emerging shifts into real opportunities. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 01:03 Meet Michael Tchong 02:04 What Are Uber Trends? 03:08 Uber Trends in Action 03:56 Breaking Down Uber Trends 04:31 Time Compression Explained 05:27 My Trend-Watching Journey 07:27 Trends vs. Fads 09:22 Using Trends for Business 11:26 Digital Marketing & AI Boom 14:35 Customer Experience Wins 15:47 The Transparency Revolution 20:24 How to Spot Trends 22:27 Critical Data Analysis Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode,

Victoria Downing, president of Remodeler’s Advantage, has been leading top-performing peer groups for over three decades, helping business owners across North America achieve greater profits, stronger leadership, and better work-life balance. In this episode, she reveals how the structure, accountability, and shared wisdom of peer groups can cut your growth timeline in half. From managing group dynamics to fostering a culture of investment in teams, Victoria shares proven strategies any entrepreneur can apply to thrive. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 00:53 Introducing Victoria Downing 01:34 Remodelers Advantage Vision 02:58 Peer Groups as the Core Tool 04:06 Peer Group Structure & Impact 05:33 Adding Tactical Roles 07:23 Challenges for Remodelers 09:17 Peer Accountability & Transparency 11:54 Tech & Innovation 13:25 Group Dynamics & Placement 16:33 Success Stories 18:26 Other Peer Group Models 19:22 Industry Trends & Future Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate

Sara Nay is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and author of Unchained: Breaking Free from Broken Marketing Models. With over 15 years of experience helping small businesses grow, Sara returns to discuss the powerful concept of owning your marketing strategy. In this episode, she unpacks the shift away from outdated agency models toward building lean, AI-enabled systems and internal capabilities. Learn how to take control, simplify your marketing, and build lasting assets that fuel growth. Today we discussed: 00:00 Introduction 00:52 Introducing Sara Nay 03:30 Costs and Risks of Outsourcing Marketing 06:31 Simplifying Marketing Through Focus and Strategy 08:29 Importance of Strategy Over Tactics 10:39 Evolving Marketing Roles: From Doers to Orchestrators 14:37 Adapting to AI: Career Mindset and Skill Development 16:34 Marketing Execution as an Asset: Owning vs Renting 19:27 The Role and Evolution of the Fractional CMO Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us kn

Rhea Allen is the President and CEO of Pepper Shock Media, host of The Marketing Expedition Podcast, and a branding expert who helps businesses build unforgettable brands from the inside out. In this episode, she dives deep into the connection between culture and branding — and why your internal team is the foundation of how the world sees your business. Discover practical strategies for aligning HR and marketing, fostering employee buy-in, and using storytelling to shape a culture that truly represents your brand. Today we discussed: 00:00:00 Start 00:00:52 Introducing Rhea Allen 00:01:39 Culture vs. Brand 00:02:45 Hiring for Culture Fit 00:03:46 Culture & Brand Camp 00:05:27 Team Buy-In Through Values 00:06:29 Storytelling in Culture 00:07:47 Storytelling in Marketing 00:08:31 Rise of Authentic Stories 00:10:28 Authenticity vs. AI 00:13:19 Fun & Engagement in Culture 00:18:21 Culture ROI: Retention & Happiness 00:19:52 Final Thoughts 00:21:36 Closing & Contact Info Rate, Review, & Follow

Laura Ries is a globally recognized branding strategist, bestselling author, and president of Ries & Ries—the firm she leads alongside her father, legendary positioning pioneer Al Ries. In this episode, she unveils the powerful concept behind her latest book, The Strategic Enemy, and explains why great brands don't just stand for something—they stand against something. Discover how identifying a strategic enemy can give your brand clarity, focus, and unstoppable energy. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 00:52 Introducing Laura Ries 03:04 Defining a Strategic Enemy vs Competitor 03:37 Examples of Strategic Enemies in Branding 05:02 Understanding the Enemy as a Problem or Alternative 06:11 The Importance of Finding and Focusing on Your Enemy 06:52 Southwest Airlines: A Case Study in Focus and Enemy Positioning 08:08 Narrowing Focus as the First Step in Positioning 09:01 Category Importance and Brand Examples 12:46 Framework for Building a Brand and Finding Your Enemy 15:52 Entrepreneurial Success Stories: Air

Sara Nay is the CEO of Duct Tape Marketing and a pioneer in strategy-first marketing for small businesses. With over 15 years of experience in roles from intern to fractional CMO, she now leads the charge in redefining what it means to run a successful, modern agency. In this episode, Sara unpacks her new book Unchained, which introduces the groundbreaking “anti-agency” model—a practical, AI-enabled approach that empowers business owners to stop renting their marketing and start owning it. Listeners will walk away with actionable insights on building lean, AI-enhanced marketing teams and why leadership—not just execution—is the future of scalable growth. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 00:43 Introducing Sara Nay 01:37 Identifying Problems with the Traditional Agency Model 03:30 The Anti-Agency Model and AI's Impact on Marketing 05:22 Timeless Marketing Principles in the Age of AI 07:23 Challenges and Dangers of AI Adoption in Small Business Marketing 09:47 The Fractional CMO Plus Model for Small Businesses 14

Stacey Hylen is an internationally recognized business coach, growth strategist, and former Vice President of Chet Holmes International. With over two decades of experience helping entrepreneurs and Fortune 500s uncover untapped revenue, she is the author of the upcoming book Hidden Profits: More Clients and Cash. In this episode, Stacey reveals powerful, actionable strategies to boost profits—without spending more on marketing—including reactivating past clients, raising prices with confidence, and fixing hidden “profit leaks.” Tune in to discover how to shift from scarcity to abundance and transform your business into a revenue-generating machine. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 00:52 Introduction to Stacey Hylen 01:28 Hidden Profits Concept and Initial Story 02:38 Raising Prices and Overcoming Fear 03:44 Narrowing Focus and Attracting Ideal Clients 05:32 Profit Leaks and Focus on Revenue-Generating Activities 06:39 Shifting Sales Mindset from Selling to Serving 07:54 Business Owners' Relationship with Prof

Chris Ducker is a serial entrepreneur, bestselling author, and founder of Youpreneur, a leading personal brand business education company. He is the author of The Long-Haul Leader: How to Lead and Win in the Long Game of Business, a powerful guide to sustainable leadership and intentional growth. In this episode, Chris shares hard-earned insights on overcoming burnout, building meaningful work-life balance, and creating long-term impact as a leader. Listeners will walk away with a clear framework for leading with focus, resilience, and purpose in both business and life. Today we discussed: 00:00 Start 01:03 Introduction to Chris Ducker 02:22 Discussing the Concept of Long-Term Business Leadership 04:59 Developing a Long-Term Mindset in Entrepreneurship 05:52 Advice for Younger Entrepreneurs on Focus and Leadership 07:58 Introducing the Book's Framework and Origins 11:22 Positioning the Book and Its Multifaceted Nature 12:44 Measuring Progress and the Importance of Hobbies 14:54 Why Creative Hobbies Boost Prod

Talia Wolf is an internationally recognized conversion optimization expert, keynote speaker, and founder of GetUplift—one of the world’s leading CRO agencies. She pioneered the concept of emotional targeting, a transformative marketing approach that taps into what customers truly feel and need. In this episode, Talia breaks down her four-step emotional targeting framework and shares how brands can dramatically boost conversions by crafting messages that connect on a human level. If you're tired of copycat marketing and want to create powerful customer experiences that truly resonate, this episode is a must-listen. 00:00 Introduction 01:04 Introduction to Talia Wolf 01:43 Defining Emotional Targeting 02:24 Common Website Mistakes and Emotional Targeting Approach 04:29 Limitations of Traditional Marketing Personas 05:46 Research Methods for Emotional Targeting 06:32 Ethics of Emotional Targeting 07:47 The Emotional Hook in Decision Making 08:25 Case Study: Teamwork and Customer-Centric Messaging 10:44 Honesty a

Bill Shander is a data communication expert, renowned information designer, and founder of Beehive Media. With over 25 years of experience working with top-tier organizations like the United Nations, World Bank, and Deloitte, Bill helps professionals transform complex data into clear, compelling narratives. In this episode, he unpacks his latest book, *Stakeholder Whispering: Uncover What People Need Before Doing What They Ask*, sharing powerful insights on how to lead with questions, not just actions. If you want to elevate your communication skills, build trust faster, and stop being just an “order taker,” this conversation is a must-listen. 00:00 Introduction 01:38 What is a Data Communications Expert? 02:36 What Inspired Stakeholder Whispering 05:02 Doing What's Asked Versus What's Needed 08:20 Listen with your Ears, Not Your Brain 09:25 Silence is Golden 11:35 Common Mistakes in Stakeholder Whispering 15:08 Receptive vs Unreceptive Stakeholders 16:16 Is This a Leadership Book? 17:42 Remote and Hybrid Wor

Manick Bhan is the founder and CTO of Search Atlas, a cutting-edge SEO and content marketing platform powering over 20,000 websites and 5,000 agencies. A serial entrepreneur and respected thought leader in the SEO industry, Manick previously founded RankPay and has spent over a decade pushing the boundaries of search technology. In this episode, he joins John Jantsch to break down the future of SEO, the disruptive impact of AI and LLMs like ChatGPT, and how marketers can evolve beyond outdated strategies. Listeners will gain actionable insights into building high-converting content, mastering SEO automation, and future-proofing their digital marketing efforts. 00:00 Opening 01:03 Introducing Manick Bhan 01:32 Why Was Search Atlas Created? 03:53 Is SEO Dead? 06:12 Why is Conversion Higher From AI Search Than Google?:07:32 RIsk vs Opportunity with AI Search 09:12 Optimizing Content for Competitive Search 42 How Should Marketers Think about AI Today? 14:28 Quality vs Quanity 17:42 Rented vs Owned Spaces 20:09 Le

Alex Goldfayn is a three-time Wall Street Journal bestselling author and one of the world’s most sought-after sales speakers. He’s the CEO of The Revenue Growth Consultancy, helping B2B companies generate millions in organic sales growth every year. In this episode, Alex reveals how to Outgrow your competition by transforming reactive teams into proactive market leaders. Tune in to discover simple, powerful actions to win more business, build lasting customer trust, and outsell even in tough times. Today we discussed: 00:00 Introducing Alex Goldfayn 00:50 Transforming From Reactive to Proactive 02:56 Being Proactive Is a Necessity 04:46 Avoiding Rejection 06:28 Showing Up When Nothing is Wrong 07:45 The COPE Methodoligy 09:03 People Just Want to Be Helped 11:16 Swinging the Bat 15:54 Reminding the Customer 16:35 How Can Non-Sales Employees Be Proactive 18:20 How To Integrate a Proactive Mindset Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved

We are diving into the future of marketing in 2025 with Sara Nay, CEO of Duct Tape Marketing. Together, we discuss how AI is reshaping the marketing landscape and why blending cutting-edge technology with timeless human elements, like emotional intelligence and storytelling, is key to staying ahead. John shares actionable insights on hyper-personalization, defining your brand voice, and building trust in a world of automation. Learn how to adapt, thrive, and create authentic connections in an AI-driven world! Today we discussed: [00:00] Opening [01:15] AI vs Previous Tech Excitement [03:25] Approaching AI Strategically [05:02] Adopting the Right Mindset Around AI [10:47] The Human Element Stands Out [13:04] Importance of Storytelling for Your Brand [13:49] AI's Impact on Marketing [16:08] The Future of Personalization [18:55] Marketing Focus for 2025 Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about the episode. Struggling with str

Dan Sanchez is an AI marketing strategist, consultant, and creator of the AI-Driven Marketer podcast. He’s a leading voice in the intersection of artificial intelligence and marketing strategy, helping businesses harness AI for content creation, automation, and growth. In this episode, Dan shares how marketers can think strategically about AI tools like ChatGPT—using them not just to automate tasks, but to enhance problem-solving, productivity, and creative strategy. Tune in to learn how to cut through the noise, avoid overwhelm, and make AI your most valuable co-pilot in the ever-evolving world of marketing. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:09 Introducing Dan Sanchez 01:57 Approaching AI Strategically 04:04 Creating New Things with AI 06:36 Evolution of AI Prompting 08:50 Humans Changing Role in Marketing 11:38 Developing Skills vs Delegating Tasks 13:51 AI Agents Affect on Marketing 17:50 Advice on Using Deep Research More About Dan Sanchez: Check out Dan Sanchez's Website: https://danchez.com Con

Andy Crestodina is the co-founder and Chief Marketing Officer of Orbit Media Studios and a leading authority on digital marketing, content strategy, and SEO. With two decades of hands-on experience and author of Content Chemistry, Andy joins John Jantsch to explore how AI is transforming content creation, analytics, and marketing strategy. They dive deep into using AI for genuine performance gains, not just efficiency, and share practical insights to help marketers stay ahead. Tune in to discover how to leverage AI without sacrificing quality — and why building real human connections still matters most. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:09 Introducing Andy Crestonida 01:03 What is AI's Impact on Marketers in 2025 03:26 Making More Time for Relationships 04:59 The State of AI in UX 08:29 AI's Impact on Content Creation 10:09 Is Keyword Ranking Important in 2025? 11:14 There's More to Content Than Search 14:00 Important Metrics for Insightful Data 15:54 How AI Can Help with Analyzing Metrics 17:36 Tuning ou

Blair Enns is a globally recognized thought leader in creative agency sales and the founder of Win Without Pitching, a revolutionary approach that empowers agencies to lead client engagements without giving away free work. He is the author of bestselling books including Pricing Creativity and his latest, The Four Conversations. In this episode, Blair breaks down his powerful new framework for selling expertise—moving from pitching and price haggling to confidently leading sales conversations. Listeners will learn how to increase closing ratios, price based on value, and shift from being seen as a vendor to a trusted advisor. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:53 The Cost of Letting the Client Run the Show 04:36 What are the Four Conversations? 06:58 Show Your Expertise without Giving it Away 08:34 Avoid Evaluating the Client 10:08 Power Dynamics of the Sale 12:56 The Value Conversation 16:18 Working Around Client Budget 18:20 Price the Client, Not the Service 19:53 Moving From Vendor to Trusted Advisor R

Jon Mest is the founder of JustReachOut.io, a cutting-edge PR software platform, and ChatRank.ai, a breakthrough tool for AI-driven SEO. With over a decade of experience helping entrepreneurs and businesses land powerful media coverage, Jon shares his insights on how AI is transforming PR and search strategies. In this episode, he reveals how to build authentic media pitches, win attention in AI-powered search overviews, and why hyper-specific storytelling is the new secret to visibility. Tune in to learn how to future-proof your SEO and PR efforts in the evolving world of digital marketing. Today we discussed: 00:00 Opening 00:45 How Has AI Changed the Way You Should Approach PR 02:31 Why PR is Rebounding 04:56 Relationship Between PR and the New SEO 06:55 How to Impact AIO 11:11 What Mistakes Do People Make when Pitching Media 14:32 How Important are Compelling Hooks 16:04 The Importance of Social Proof 17:40 Amplifying Your Current Press Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate

As a small business owner, you're constantly wearing different hats, from CEO to salesperson to project manager – but what's the secret to juggling it all without burning out? In this insightful episode, John explores the seven critical roles every entrepreneur needs to master, offering actionable advice for delegating, automating, and optimizing your business operations. His practical strategies will help marketing consultants, agency owners, and small business leaders shift from being trapped in day-to-day tasks to focusing on meaningful growth, ultimately creating a business that serves you rather than consuming you. Today we discussed: [00:00] Opening [00:26] Juggling Multiple Roles [04:38] The CEO Role [05:37] The Sales Person Role [07:09] The Strategist Role [08:46] The Project Manager Role [09:49] The Marketing Role [12:59] The Client Manager Role [13:56] The 4-Prong Approach Rate, Review, & Follow If you liked this episode, please rate and review the show. Let us know what you loved most about