Fishing Without Bait

Jim Ellermeyer discusses the difference between Pleasure and Joy. Why is Pleasure so hard to pursue and can get us into trouble and the sustainability of Joy.  We look at Krishna Pendyala’s take on "The Pig and the Ape” from his book.    Subscribe to our Podcast on iTunes or look for it on your favorite Podcatcher!  Read the transcript here. Intro music: “Life” by Tobu