The Gist

Birgitta Jónsdóttir has an unusual background for a politician: she’s a poet and a free speech activist. Since 2013, she’s been a member of the Icelandic parliament representing the anti-establishment Pirate Party. Jónsdóttir talks to Mike about what it’s like to work within a fledgling political party and why she’s disappointed with what Wikileaks has become. In the Spiel, how not to respond to a terrorist attack.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices