Order Of Man: Protect | Provide | Preside

My guest today, Scott Payne, spent more than two decades working with some of the most notorious biker gangs, illegal drug operations, and neo-Nazis. And, it would be hard to even imagine some of the things he’s seen and experienced in his decades-long career as an FBI Special Agent. Today, Scott and I talk about what it takes to be a successful undercover agent, the lines that get blurred when working with some of the most dangerous criminals in the world, how to keep your cool under pressure (including the time a notorious biker gang stripped him in a basement to search him for the wire he was wearing at the time), and how a man transitions back into his ordinary life after one of the most dangerous jobs he could do. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 - Introduction 00:52 - Undercover Beginnings 02:25 - First Drug Buy 04:37 - Dark Humor Coping 06:32 - No Honor Among Thieves 15:06 - Infiltrating Neo-Nazis 26:07 - Blurring the Lines 35:31 - Illegal Activity Question 41:08 - Drug Protection Deal 47:59 - Basement Strip Se