Not Another True Crime Podcast

In part one of this two part deep dive, Casey, Danny, & Sara discuss the shocking article in The Cut about Larry Ray and his influence on a group of Sarah Lawrence students Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Sara, Danny and Casey are joined by Christine Schiefer and Em Schulz of the “And That’s Why We Drink” podcast. They discuss what it takes to become a paranormal investigator, why fans of true crime would love the paranormal , and what wines are a perfect pair with your favorite ghost stories. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Sara, Casey and Danny are joined by Criminal Defense and Civil Rights lawyer, Ron Kuby. They discuss the American justice system and why it’s so flawed, just how practical the idea of defunding the NYPD is, and what it takes to get a wrongfully convicted man out of prison. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We start off the episode by talking about the murder of Fahim Saleh, a tech CEO who was found killed in his Lower East Side apartment. We give brief updates on the #FreeBritney situation. Then we unpack one of the so-called "mysteries" from Netflix's Unsolved Mysteries, the death of Alonzo Brooks. Sources https://www.insider.com/fahim-saleh-assistant-used-credit-card-after-ceos-death-report-2020-7 https://nypost.com/2020/07/19/dismembered-tech-ceos-assistant-pleads-not-guilty-to-horrid-murder/ Netflix unsolved mysteries, episode 4 https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/netflixs-next-unsolved-mysteries-updates-ghosts-1234703225/ https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/22/us/alonzo-brooks-exhumed-unsolved-mysteries-trnd/index.html https://gardnernews.com/100000-reward-for-information-on-brooks-death/ https://www.nytimes.com/1993/11/20/nyregion/syracuse-medical-examiner-agrees-to-quit-after-inquiry.html https://www2.ljworld.com/news/public-safety/2018/dec/23/former-douglas-county-coroner-relocates-again/ https://www.syracuse.com/

This week Sara, Casey and Danny dive into one of the great celeb conspiracy theories of our time, the Britney Spears Conservatorship. The NATCP crew break down the players behind the scenes, the details behind what a conservatorship actually entails and and whether or not we really need to free Britney. Also we got the court date wrong, it’s July 22. Sorry! Sources: https://www.today.com/popculture/free-britney-2020-what-know-about-movement-spears-conservatorship-t186642 https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/britney-spears-dad-admits-relationship-has-always-been-strained/ https://www.businessinsider.com/inside-britney-spears-conservatorship-freebritney-movement-2020-2 https://www.ochealthinfo.com/bhs/mhi/id#:~:text=5150%20is%20the%20number%20of,or%20herself%2C%20or%20gravely%20disabled. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-17/britney-spears-conservatorship-free-britney https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucky_(Britney_Spears_song)#Background_and_composition https://www.mercurynews.com/2008/02/

Casey, Danny, and Sara break down a true (alleged) scammer, Jesse James Francis Clark, who would (allegedly) scam brides... allegedly. Sources: https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/you-are-nothing-attorney-nicholas-frye-nothing-a43e5a893c85 https://www.jessejohnfrancisclark.com/ https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/couples-claim-photographer/1904072/ https://medium.com/@JesseJohnFrancisClark/use-your-haters-as-fuel-for-success-c8e67d7d9947 https://www.telegram.com/news/20200602/lawyer-begs-mass-attorney-general-for-criminal-case-against-wedding-videographer https://turtleboysports.com/meet-charltons-jesse-john-francis-clark-career-scam-artist-photographer-who-mocked-grieving-client-on-what-wouldve-been-wedding-date-after-refusing-to-refund-money-when-fiance-died-makes-up-suic/ https://je3814.wixsite.com/ninjamonkeyweddings/single-post/2016/09/15/Jesse-Clark--The-videographer-every-bride-should-know-about https://www.telegram.com/article/20130426/NEWS/104269782 http://archive.boston.com/business/pers

We start off the episode by discussing the disappearance of Vanessa Guillen, who went missing from Fort Hood in April. Then we talk about the mysterious fireworks that have been (literally) popping off across the country, and delve into some theories about what it all means. Sources: https://www.thecut.com/2020/06/why-are-so-many-fireworks-going-off.html https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2020/6/22/21298912/firework-complaints-northeastern-cities https://twitter.com/AnneMarcelleN/status/1274540444253388800 https://nypost.com/2020/06/17/fdny-firefighters-light-off-illegal-fireworks-in-brooklyn/ https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/8/8/20747198/philadelphia-bombing-1985-move https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/10/move-1985-bombing-reconciliation-philadelphia https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/10/when-i-was-mayor-philadelphia-bombed-civilians-its-time-for-the-city-to-apologise https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/n-c-police-chief-apologizes-after-video-shows-officers-destroying-n1225716 htt

The theme this week is “don’t just throw your money at organizations without doing a little due diligence”. We talk one probable scam and one case of mixed up identity. First it’s Plant A Tree Co, a big IG page that claims to plant a tree for every product purchased on their site... but do they really? Then we talk about a confusingly named foundation that fooled companies like Google, Apple, and Microsoft into donating millions for the wrong cause Home Chef: Home Chef is the #1 customer rated meal kit company. Go to HomeChef.com/natcp for $30 off! Prose: Take your free in-depth hair quiz and get 15% off your first order at Prose.com/natc Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we go in a slightly different direction by unpacking the concept of Missing White Woman syndrome and highlighting three separate cases (of many) that illustrate this disparity. Then the NATC crew provides some much-requested updates to 2 cases we've previously discussed: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell (the missing Idaho kids) and Madeleine McCann. Home Chef: Home Chef is the #1 customer rated meal kit company. Go to HomeChef.com/natcp for $30 off! Hydrant: For 25% off your first order, go to DrinkHydrant.com/natcp or enter promo code natcp at checkout. Babbel: Babbel is offering three months free with the purchase of a three-month subscription when you use promo code NATCP. Go to Babbel.com to start learning a new language! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Not Another True Crime Podcast will not be releasing an episode this week. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Special note: We record our episodes on a delay, meaning we're at least 1 week behind in current events. That said, we went back to the future this week to discuss Betty Broderick, the inspiration behind the new season of Dirty John, called Dirty John: Betty. First of all, we touch on how dumb of a title that is. But then we get into the details of what caused Betty Broderick to snap and kill her ex-husband and his new wife. We also discuss our Queen, Hilary Duff, getting dragged into the Q Anon conspiracy, and attempt to make sense of it all. Sources: https://www.latimes.com/la-me-broderick3jun0390-story.htmlhttps://www.thedailybeast.com/hilary-duff-debunks-qanon-esque-rumor-she-tried-to-sell-her-own-son-luca-cruz-comrie https://www.tvinsider.com/928642/betty-broderick-dirty-john-season-two-crime-story/ https://www.distractify.com/p/betty-broderick-children-today https://www.latimes.com/la-broderick-sg-storygallery.html https://web.archive.org/web/20150209235944/http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/

NATCP tackles the life and crimes of D. Gary Young, the founder of Young Living Essential Oils. Even before starting what is now a giant MLM company, Young was no stranger to sketchiness. We break down his upbringing and run-ins with the law, then go into the ins and outs of Young Living essential oils. Sources: State v. Young , 37 Wn. App. 1061 (Wash. App. June 6, 1984) https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19821017&id=rvlLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2e4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=3079%2C675647&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830309&id=6dkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=1520,3981858 https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/d-_gary-young-19492018-diploma-mill-naturopath-and-promoter-of-essential-oi/ https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1314&dat=19830310&id=6tkvAAAAIBAJ&sjid=qe4DAAAAIBAJ&pg=7124,4646687&hl=en https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1345&dat=19861028&id=gDFkAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yfkDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1732,2469702&hl=en https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-10-23-mn-10747-story.html https://www.dga

After being inspired by HBO's Bad Education starring Hugh Jackman, Allison Janney, and Ray Romano, Sara, Danny, and Casey decide to delve into what really happened in the Roslyn school district in 2004. From flights to face lifts, superintendent Frank Tassone managed to quietly swindle millions of dollars from taxpayers to fund his lavish lifestyle. We don't hate it! We break down how everyone involved got away with the embezzlement, talk about how Bad Education stacks up against the real story, and discuss where everyone is now. We also read a listener letter from a fan who worked for a scam shampoo company. RoboKiller: Stop spam calls. Head to robokiller.com/NATC on your mobile device now to download the app and get RoboKiller free for 7 days Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Proving once again that the 1970s were a lawless time where you could literally get away with murder, we’re examining the life and crimes of Rodney Alcala aka the Dating Game Killer. Alcala killed scores of women in the late 70s and also appeared on (and won) the Dating Game TV show in the middle of his killing spree. Smh. Sources https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/dating-game-killer-rodney-alcala-podcast-wondery-trailer-959138/ https://www.oxygen.com/mark-of-a-killer/crime-time/who-is-serial-killer-rodney-alcala-and-how-did-he-win-the-dating-gamehttps://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/flashback-serial-killer-appears-on-the-dating-game-mid-spree-192077/https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/long-road-road-to-justice-in-case-of-serial-killer-alcala.htmlhttps://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/03/orange-county-jury-recommends-death-for-alcala-for-third-time.htmlhttps://www.history.com/news/serial-killer-dating-game-rodney-alcalahttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-se

What's black and white and covered in a purple shroud? The members of the Heaven's Gate cult after their ritualized mass suicide, which occurred in 1997 and was the largest mass suicide on U.S. soil. Casey, Danny, and Sara will take you through the cult's beginnings, their out-of-this-world beliefs, and its tragic end for 39 of its members. https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/heavens-gate-cult-members-found-dead https://www.britannica.com/topic/Heavens-Gate-religious-group#ref700331 https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/heavens-gate-20-years-later-10-things-you-didnt-know-114563/ https://www.salon.com/2014/11/15/anatomy_of_a_mass_suicide_the_dark_twisted_story_behind_a_ufo_death_cult/ https://redditblog.com/2015/10/03/an-interview-with-the-heavens-gate-webmaster-meet-telah-61/ https://www.nytimes.com/1997/03/29/us/from-religious-childhood-to-reins-of-a-ufo-cult.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Westfield, NJ strikes again. The quaint affluent NJ town that brought us The Watcher (in a previous ep) was also home to a grisly murder committed by John List. List brutally murdered his entire family, and then went on the run for almost 18 years. With the help of a good ol' program called America's Most Wanted, he was finally apprehended. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It's the docuseries sensation that's sweeping the nation, so of course the NATC fam is here to talk about motherf*cking TIGER KING! Did Joe put out a hit on Carole? Did Carole kill her husband Don and feed him to the tigers? Is Jeff Lowe the shadiest man alive? Who wasn't on meth here? We grapple with all these questions, and a hell of a lot more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a world pre-COVID-19 social distancing (remember that?), the NATC crew sat down to talk about the disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley. The then-23-year-old took a cruise with her family to the Caribbean, and after a night of dancing with one of the ship's musicians, disappeared. Sara, Casey, and Danny break down what happened right after Amy disappeared, how the cruise handled it (or, more accurately, didn't), discuss the many sightings that have happened in the years since her disappearance, and share their theories. Check out "Made Women'----> https://link.chtbl.com/madewomen_MR_01 Sources: https://thehueandcry.com/missing/amy-lynn-bradley/ https://www.drphil.com/slideshows/the-search-for-natalee-amy-bradley/ https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/09/cruise-into-darkness-the-bizarre-disappearance-of-amy-bradley/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Casey is out of town, Danny and Sara are joined by a very special guest host: Harlan Coben! The NYT best-selling author of many thrillers including The Stranger, Run Away, and Don't Let Go helps us break down the twisted tale of Bruce Hay, the Harvard professor who got caught in an alleged fake paternity plot with two women. It's a wild ride, trust us. Be sure to watch Coben's new Netflix series, The Stranger, and buy his new book, The Boy From The Woods, out March 17.Sources: https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider.html https://www.thecut.com/2019/08/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider-follow-up.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara, Casey & Danny continue coverage of the Casey Anthony case. If you haven't listened to part 1, GO LISTEN NOW! This week, they cover the trial that swept the nation, the verdict, and what we really think happened to Caylee. Sources: https://www.cnn.com/2013/11/04/us/casey-anthony-trial-fast-facts/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2012/06/12/justice/florida-casey-anthony/ https://www.reuters.com/article/us-crime-anthony/on-911-call-casey-anthony-said-tot-was-missing-for-31-days-idUSTRE74U5W720110531 https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/topstories/2008-08-26-3825124179_x.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20110604005437/http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26558545/ https://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-completes-probation/story?id=17072180 https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/19/casey.anthony.judge.quits/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2011634/Casey-Anthony-trial-How-tot-mom-partied-Caylee-went-missing.html https://web.archive.org/web/20190626023533/https://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/06/30/florida.casey.anthony.tr