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Slate's The Gist with Mike Pesca. A daily afternoon show about news, culture, and whatever else you'll be discussing with friends and family tonight.
Episódios
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Ben Rhodes: "The Thing They Do As The Next Step Is The Most Consequential Part Of The Deal"
24/06/2026 Duração: 31minToday on The Gist, we explore the collapse of the bipartisan affordable housing package on Capitol Hill. Then, former Obama deputy national security adviser and chief speechwriter Ben Rhodes returns for the conclusion of his conversation on All We Say: The Battle for American Identity, A History in 15 Speeches. Rhodes reacts to historical audio from nuclear negotiator Wendy Sherman to define the explicit red lines of the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, detailing how negotiated limitations and sweeping supply chain inspections remain superior to the temporary setbacks of military strikes. Finally, in the spiel, a look at the New York primary and why newly elected congressional candidate Darializa Avila Chevalier represents a low for the party. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to bec
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Ben Rhodes: "If We Had To Pay With All This Blood, It Was Worth It"
23/06/2026 Duração: 42minToday on The Gist, lack of civic information and public debates available to voters ahead of the New York state assembly primary elections. Then, former Obama deputy national security adviser and chief speechwriter Ben Rhodes joins the show to discuss his new book, All We Say: The Battle for American Identity, A History in 15 Speeches. He breaks down how historical icons from Seneca Chief Red Jacket to Abraham Lincoln used the power of rhetoric to push for progressive change without resorting to moral purity tests. Rhodes critiques the modern political landscape, explaining how the online left's reliance on shaming has backfired compared to the unyielding optimism of early Obama campaigns. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out htt
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Michael A. Cohen: "There Is an Inherent Bias Toward Exaggerating the Benefits of Using Military Force"
22/06/2026 Duração: 43minToday on The Gist, the alarming strategic ramifications of the $300 billion in indirect Gulf state investments heading to Iran as a ceasefire condition. Then, foreign policy expert Michael A. Cohen of the Stimson Center joins the show to discuss his co-authored report evaluating the hidden costs, failures, and hubris of recent U.S. military campaigns in Venezuela and Iran. Cohen breaks down why the Trump administration completely failed to anticipate second-order consequences like the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, how the precision assassination of the Ayatollah counterproductively empowered pro-nuclear hardliners, and how Benjamin Netanyahu's domestic military overreach in Lebanon completely alienated his superpower benefactor. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become
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Michael Schur: "The Afterlife Score Is Mathematical and Omniscient, But It Might Be Wrong"
20/06/2026 Duração: 27minToday on The Gist, we pull an archival interview from the vault as acclaimed writer-producer Michael Schur joins the show to dissect the ethical frameworks behind The Good Place. He details how everyday anxieties, like the self-consciousness of waiting for a barista to witness your tip, evolved into a cosmic sitcom about moral scorekeeping. Schur compares his fictional afterlife to the cold reality of sabermetrics, charting how hyper-rational evaluation systems have sanded off the quirky edges of baseball to create a clinical game of three true outcomes. Finally, in the spiel, a look at the historical taxonomy of miracles reveals why public anxiety regarding the additive breakthrough of AI. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ht
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Not Even Mad: Anthony Weiner & Matt Welch
18/06/2026 Duração: 53minToday on The Gist, we explore the aftermath of the Kansas City Super Bowl parade shooting, as NEw York celebrates a historic Knicks championship victory. Then, former congressman Anthony Weiner and Reason editor-at-large Matt Welch join the panel for another edition of "Not Even Mad." The trio debates the massive market valuation of Elon Musk's SpaceX, analyzing how concentrated wealth reshapes global geopolitics, media structures, and domestic policy debates. They also turn their focus to the upcoming New York primary races, exploring the rise of age-based political realignment and populism. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https:
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Sadie Dingfelder: "You Cannot Be Burned by Wind Alone"
17/06/2026 Duração: 30minToday on The Gist, we look at the complex racial and political dynamics surrounding a newly redistricted congressional seat in Florida. Then, journalist Sadie Dingfelder returns for another edition of "Is It Bullshit" to break down the myth of windburn, tracing the science back to a 1974 mouse wind tunnel experiment. Finally, in the spiel, a look at the historical taxonomy of miracles and how a public anxiety toward the additive miracle of AI contrasts with how regular people actually rely on the technology in their private lives. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media: YouTu
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Michael Schur: "It Is Funny to Watch Fans Turn Themselves Inside Out to Try to Hold on to Something That No Longer Exists"
16/06/2026 Duração: 29minToday on The Gist, a look into the local New York controversy surrounding Mayor Zoran Mamdani's initiative to stream World Cup and NBA Finals games on Link NYC kiosks. Then, television writer-producer Michael Schur and veteran sports columnist Joe Posnanski return for the conclusion of their interview discussing their collaborative book, Big Fan: Two Friends, 82,490 Miles, and the Wild, Wonderful Sports We Love. The duo unpacks how the modern NIL system has injected absolute chaos into college sports, the psychological dynamic of fan entitlement, and why the intense burden of aging outpaces our raw desire for stadium treks. Then, in the spiel, a deep dive into the high-stakes Democratic primary in New York's 13th congressional district. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Pl
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Joe Posnanski: "Life Is Lonely, and Sports Provides a Community"
15/06/2026 Duração: 40minToday on The Gist, sorting through the deluge of "freedom" branding in modern politics. Then, television writer-producer Michael Schur and veteran sports columnist Joe Posnanski join the show to discuss their new book, Big Fan: Two Friends, 82,490 Miles, and the Wild, Wonderful Sports We Love. The duo breaks down the distinct differences between the community of live sports and the parasocial mirror of television fandom, how showrunners selectively weaponize casting to subvert audience expectations, and why fans willingly wager their emotional happiness on unpredictable, unscripted outcomes. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.subst
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Chris Cillizza: "Most of the People I Know in Media Can Barely Pay Their Bills"
13/06/2026 Duração: 46minMike joined Chris Cillizza on Substack Live where they analyzed why California takes so long to count ballots, detailing how logistics and funding create a perception of dysfunction rather than deliberate corruption. They also dove into a recent Pew poll finding that Americans unique globally dislike their fellow countrymen, tracing this data to cultural polarization and strict two-party sorting. Finally, breaking down why the actual power of U.S. military and technological capacity historically outlasts its moral reputation abroad. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media: You
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Gary Slutkin: "Violence Meets Every Scientific Definition of a Contagious Disease"
12/06/2026 Duração: 30minToday on The Gist, a look at the Alaska's U.S. Senate race, where a retired teacher named Dan Sullivan was disqualified from running in a primary against the incumbent senator, who is also named Dan Sullivan. Then, physician and epidemiologist Dr. Gary Slutkin joins the show to discuss his book, The End of Violence: Eliminating the World’s Most Dangerous Epidemic. The Cure Violence founder explains how analyzing violent crime data maps perfectly onto traditional epidemic waves, breaking down the neurological copying mechanisms that cause violence to structurally replicate and behave exactly like infectious diseases such as cholera or COVID-19. Finally, Milo Pesca files a guest spiel on the rise of crypto and prediction markets, tracking the insider trading scandals plaguing unreleased reality TV finales and the ethical hazards of gamifying political and entertainment outcomes. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at
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Not Even Mad: Bradley Tusk & Charles Fain Lehman
11/06/2026 Duração: 55minToday on The Gist, Its Not Even Mad. Mike Pesca is joined by venture capitalist Bradley Tusk and Manhattan Institute senior fellow Charles Fain Lehman for a panel debate on political judgment and modern vice. The trio dives into the results of the Maine Democratic primary, questioning whether progressive candidate Graham Plattner can overcome a cascade of personal scandals to unseat longtime Republican incumbent Susan Collins. They also dissect the election logistics of California and the explosion of mobile sports betting apps, tracking the friction between state and federal regulations while exploring how on-device gambling exploits algorithmic data to target young men. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mik
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Sadie Dingfelder: "Raccoons Have Never Been a Rabies Vector in America"
10/06/2026 Duração: 34minToday on The Gist, examining the upcoming criminal verdict for the Golden Gate Bridge climate protesters, breaking down the debate over jail time for high-impact civil disobedience. Then, Sadie Dingfelder returns for another installment of "Is It Bullsh*t?" to investigate the historical and scientific reputation of raccoons and rabies. Then, in the spiel, comparing the foreign policy legacies of Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump and analyzing whether current U.S. intervention strategies serve as a deliberate long game or merely export short-term geopolitical misery abroad. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.co
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Benoit Denizet-Lewis: The Case Against “I’ve Changed”
08/06/2026 Duração: 46minToday on The Gist, Mike considers the difference between an election and election night. One is a careful accounting of the public will. The other is the made-for-TV version that gives conspiracy theorists something to yell about when mail ballots shift the totals. Then, Benoit Denizet-Lewis joins to discuss You’ve Changed: The Promise and Price of Self-Transformation. The book asks a deceptively simple question: can people really change? Denizet-Lewis says yes, no, and it depends who’s watching. He and Mike discuss identity lifers, political apostates, parole hearings, addiction recovery, name changes, gender identity, and the people who say they didn’t change at all; everyone else did. Plus, the final scene of Rocky IV, because apparently even the Politburo believed in personal growth. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mike
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Tom Steyer’s Very Expensive Optimism
06/06/2026 Duração: 27minIn this Saturday archive edition of The Gist, Mike asks the question on everyone’s mind, or at least Tom Steyer’s: is Tom Steyer back? With Steyer rising in the California gubernatorial primary, Mike revisits his 2019 reaction to Steyer’s presidential campaign launch, including the ads, the impeachment crusade, and the camera angles nobody asked for. Then, a later interview with Steyer on Cheaper, Faster, Better: How We’ll Win the Climate War. Steyer argues that climate progress will come not from guilt or sacrifice, but from technologies that beat fossil fuels in the marketplace. Mike presses him on EV adoption, continued oil drilling, China’s lead in electric cars, carbon sequestration, and whether climate doomerism has hurt the cause. Plus: The Usual Suspects, American Pie, and the investor case for optimism. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our web
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Christian Miller: Why We Say We Love Honesty, Then Reward Liars
05/06/2026 Duração: 35minToday on The Gist, Mike asks whether everyone is a hypocrite, or whether hypocrisy has become so universal that the word barely functions. Graham Platner, Ken Paxton, Pete Hegseth, Susan Collins, and Jake Auchincloss all make appearances in a tour of political standards, double standards, and the rare politician willing to say his own side’s nominee fails the test. Then, Christian B. Miller, A.C. Reid Professor of Philosophy at Wake Forest University and author of The Honesty Crisis, joins to discuss why honesty ranks as our most treasured virtue, why people still cheat when they think they can get away with it, and why a small share of people may be responsible for a huge share of lies. Plus, Mike presses Miller on pornography, fantasy, celebrity, politics, and whether public life now overexposes us to the professions where dishonesty pays best. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca con
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Claude Steele Has a Better Way to Talk About Race
04/06/2026 Duração: 41minToday on The Gist, Mike revisits the suddenly shifting Spencer Pratt/Nithya Raman race in Los Angeles, where prediction markets flipped as late-arriving California ballots changed the picture. The bigger question: is slow vote-counting actually a democratic problem, or mostly a problem for people who want election night to behave like a TV show? Then, Stanford social psychologist Claude Steele joins to discuss his new book Churn: The Tension That Divides Us and How to Overcome It. Steele, known for coining the term "stereotype threat", argues that prejudice and bias are real but not the whole story. Much of American life is shaped by the fear of being seen through a stereotype, or accused of seeing someone else that way. Mike and Steele talk DEI, color blindness, anti-racism, policing, trust, and why “be open and curious” may beat a lot of official diversity training. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at thegist@mikepesca.
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Ian Coss: How One Man Controlled A Quarter Of New England’s Groundfish
03/06/2026 Duração: 39minToday on The Gist, Mike looks at the LA mayoral race, where Karen Bass is advancing and Spencer Pratt may be too, depending on the late-arriving ballots that will almost certainly inspire totally normal and measured reactions online. Then, Ian Coss talks about Catching the Codfather, his GBH podcast about Carlos Rafael, the larger-than-life New Bedford fish mogul who built an empire on boats, permits, quotas, and a willingness to break the law. Rafael had Scarface memorabilia in his office, a Codfather nickname he loved, and control over a huge chunk of New England’s groundfish market. But the story Coss tells is bigger than one colorful crook. It’s about the unintended consequences of regulation, the limits of fishery science, and the market-based reforms that helped consolidate an industry they were supposed to save. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out o
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Simone Stolzoff: We’re Getting Worse At Not Knowing
02/06/2026 Duração: 33minToday on The Gist, President Trump says he “couldn’t care less” whether Iran negotiations are over because, frankly, they’ve gotten “a little boring.” Mike takes him at his word, which is exactly the problem: when the Strait of Hormuz, gas prices, and the possibility of war are on the table, boredom is not a diplomatic strategy. Then, journalist Simone Stolzoff joins to discuss his new book, How Not to Know: The Value of Uncertainty in a World That Demands Answers. Stolzoff explains why human brains crave prediction, why the internet has made us worse at sitting with ambiguity, and why certainty can become a trap, whether it comes from cults, algorithms, productivity culture, or the false promise that every answer is just one search away. Mike presses him on whether learning to “let go” is a problem of abundance, and whether books about work, anxiety, and uncertainty mostly speak to people whose material problems have already been solved. Produced by Corey Wara Edited by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or
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Aaron Tang: "Re-instill This Idea That We Can Sit Around and Talk to Each Other"
01/06/2026 Duração: 41minToday on The Gist, we analyze the Maine U.S. Senate race as Democrat Graham Plattner navigates a growing scandal while facing incumbent Susan Collins in a contest that tests party loyalties. Then, UC Davis law professor Aaron Tang discusses his PBS series, Breaking the Deadlock. Tang explains how his program uses high-stakes, fictionalized scenarios to force experts beyond their rehearsed talking points and toward genuine, civil discourse. Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media: YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g Instagram https://www.instag
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Mike Pesca on The Reason Roundtable
30/05/2026 Duração: 25minToday on The Gist, guest host Milo Pesca introduces Mikes recent appearance on the Reason Roundtable podcast, analyzing the shifting parameters of the current conflict in Iran. The discussion panel deconstructs the lack of a coherent foreign policy framework in Washington. Finally, a breakdown of the upcoming Los Angeles mayoral election, exploring the legitimate local frustrations driving the populist campaign of reality television star Spencer Pratt, the failures of the institutional progressive establishment under Karen Bass, and why supply-side housing reforms in states like Texas offer a model for urban governance that coastal cities continue to ignore. Listen to The Reason Roundtable Here! Produced by Corey Wara Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at [email protected] For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out